Jen: He did not.

Nathan: Oh no: "Will it stick to him?" They're throwing bologna at his ass. Very "Jackass."

Jen: Lunchmeats and nakedness!

Nathan: These guys all seem straight to me, but they've all got this gay aesthetic. The shaved bodies, the haircuts, the way they're groomed.

Jen: See, that's what I'm saying about Jersey boys. The first time I went to a nightclub in Jersey, it felt like I was walking into the gayest club ever. They check each other out in a certain way, scope each other out. They're all groomed, worked out, very conscious of their accessories.

Nathan: Is this to attract women? Or is it vanity and competitiveness with other guys?

Jen: Vanity and competitiveness, totally.

Nathan: And insecurity. We can blame the gays for that.

Jen: Completely, yeah.

Nathan: Can you conceive on any level that straight women would watch this and be turned on?

Jen: This isn't what women find sexy, generally. Even when you watch men strip at a club, they create this story for you, and interact with you. It's all relational.

Nathan: And these are not manly men. They're man-boys. That's much more the erotic territory of the homo. Look: shaved again. Now they're doing "dick tricks." And it looks like the girls behind the camera are into the ass slapping too. Are you into ass? Are girls into guy ass?

Jen: I really like ass.

Nathan: So this is kind of appealing.

Jen: It's not a turn-on, really. It's kind of funny.

Nathan: This emphasis on ass also seems pitched to a gay audience. OK, this guy can't get a hard-on, but he can do push-ups!

And now we have guys gone overweight. Ew. Shaved again!

Jen: No way.

Nathan: I'm kind of amazed at all the grooming going on here. You know what though, I don't see a lot of straight college dick. I don't go to the gym and shower and all that.

Jen: I know one guys who trims, but I've never seen shaved.

Nathan: Grooming is one thing; the bush can get big. But this looks like some kind of hair-free phenomenon I don't know about.

Jen: I don't feel like it's that typical. Most of my girlfriends are afraid to talk about how they shave.

Nathan: Gay men don't have inhibition about that.

Jen: I'll tell them, "So, I just got my shit waxed off, Brazilian style. I can't believe she waxed my ass that way!" And my girlfriends will be like "Eeeeeh!" It's really strange. I'm not excited about sharing my waxing experiences...

Nathan: Wait. You wax your pussy?

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